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stylesheet, interwiki

Is there a way to access/edit the site stylesheet? There should be some standardization applied to various infobox templates and such. One could kludge it by including a template in a template, but then all the formatting is inline and bloats the page size - better to put it in a stylesheet. Also, does anyone know about setting up interwiki maps? There are a couple other Mac-related wikis, and while I think we are going to be much better than they, it may be useful to link to them occasionally. Of course, I imagine Wikipedia is going to be a much-linked resource. These maps are good for more than just wiki sites; they can link to any site with "parameterized" URLs. ⇔ ChristTrekker 14:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

For the CSS, just add it to Common.css. I'll look at getting interwiki linking set up. What sites would you be wanting? → ~tl (talkcontribs) 16:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Great, I'll put something in for infoboxes. For sites, I was thinking perhaps WikiMac and the 68kWiki initially. A shortcut for LEM profiles would be nice too, but Dan doesn't have a single URL format; it's more of a traditional directory tree design. ⇔ ChristTrekker 17:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Just had a check, and there are a few set up by default. Including Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Main_Page. → ~tl (talkcontribs) 16:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I think I tried the "w:" prefix since I saw that mentioned somewhere. I don't think I used the long one. ⇔ ChristTrekker 17:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
I could set that up. However, I think it's clearer where the link is leading to if we use "Wikipedia:". → ~tl (talkcontribs) 14:16, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Compete agreement. I just wasn't thinking... ⇔ ChristTrekker 14:32, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

top level categories

Is there a true top-level category to put our top-level categories in so that they don't show up as red links, or some special way to designate them top level? ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Just add some text to the page and they won't show up in red any more. Probably a good idea to have a brief description of what the category is anyway. → ~tl (talk · contribs) 10:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
True, but they still show up in Special:Uncategorizedcategories, which annoys me. ⇔ ChristTrekker 20:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

meta-discussion

Is there a better place to be talking about the wiki itself generally other than the Portal talk page? Maybe we need to start 68kMLA Wiki:Policies and guidelines or something like that. ⇔ ChristTrekker 15:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I think this is as good a place as any, except the forums... a lot of discussion could go in there. → ~tl (talk · contribs) 10:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
FYI, I found a wikilink to a "standard" page at 68kMLA Wiki:Policy. ⇔ ChristTrekker 18:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

feature request - references

Cite extensionChristTrekker 20:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Installed! → ~tl (talk · contribs) 06:23, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks! I've put it to use. ⇔ ChristTrekker 20:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

outside promotion

Are we talking about this wiki outside the 68kMLA yet? I don't want to be telling tons of people to head on over if we're not really ready for them. ⇔ ChristTrekker 22:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I see no reason to keep it a secret. More blood is bound to help improve the place! → ~tl (talk · contribs) 06:24, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
OK then... Post here if you notice a traffic spike! ☺ ⇔ ChristTrekker 21:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

adding "poll-like" articles to the wiki

I was trying to think of how to handle wiki articles that read more like a poll: lists of favorites, recommendations, etc. I don't think the nature of a wiki is very conducive to this sort of thing. One person makes a change, someone else doesn't like it and changes it to something else, etc. It's not the type of article where there is one correct answer and multiple people trying to refine it. Many wikis are not affected by this problem, because they wouldn't allow this type of article, but I see it as something that naturally fits into a community wiki like this one. In the forums we see threads/polls all the time wondering "What is your favorite 68k whatever?" or "What software would you suggest for blank?", and everyone chimes in with answers or advice. I think all suggestions are valid and ought to remain so that readers can choose whatever option they like best, rather than possibly be edited away by someone else.

How to encourage this type of article within the wiki format? I recommend subpages. If the subject is "Best shooter games for 68k Macs", rather than adding a comment directly, include Special:Mypage/favorite/game/shooter (or whatever) as if it were a template. If a certain format is decided on for this, it could be done as a table, which could be made sortable with some JavaScript. (I don't think one could tabulate responses to find the most-recommended game, but if sorted you could see the biggest block of similar responses.) This approach has the advantage that this "template" could be reused—it could be posted on the user's page itself, or "Best all-around game for 68k Macs", etc.

By putting these suggestions in user space, hopefully they'd be respected more by other editors. It would make them easier for individual users to monitor/update as desired, rather than tracking down a (potential) multitude of "poll" articles he'd contributed to over time.

Granted, we don't have many (any) of this type of article yet, but I think we could...someday. I love the forums, but the lack of structure and time-based nature inherent there makes organization difficult—you have to resort to a web search to find things, and hope you are using the right terms. My hope is that if certain threads strike a chord with someone, that he will opt to save that information in the wiki for future reference/sharing. (Greater linkage between forums and wiki would be helpful to both, I think. The forums could say, "Also save your answer here and see results." Since talk pages aren't really the best for discussions, the wiki could say, "Discuss this topic.") So this is a lot of rambling for something that is still just a hypothetical, but I wanted to put it out there. As if I wasn't already enough of an organization nut around here.... ☺ ⇔ ChristTrekker 18:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

upload .tgz?

I'd cleaned up the Saint Francis (San Francisco replacement) archive and was going to post it (since the author encouraged it, and it is getting hard to find elsewhere) but tgz files are blocked. I can repackage as a zip if you want (either is now widely supported across platforms) but tgz has tighter compression. ⇔ ChristTrekker 16:30, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Added. I've also created a download template for it Template:Tgz~tl (talk · contribs) 20:03, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. (And welcome back!) ⇔ ChristTrekker 20:32, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

video card index

I finished up a first stab at this. I think it's a good format to follow for lists of other peripheral-type things since it includes the most pertinent specs and is sortable. ⇔ ChristTrekker z 17:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

template breakthrough!

See Quadra 605, Centris/Quadra Guide, and Help:Templates. This technique should save us a lot of repetition and potential mistakes/oversights when updating. ⇔ ChristTrekker z 19:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Very clever! Good work☺→ ~tl (talk · contribs) 11:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

skin

I might try creating a custom skin for the wiki. Something reminiscent of the Mac OS, to a go along with all the other "Mac-like UI" elements I've built. I have no idea what I'm getting into, but what the hey... ⇔ ChristTrekker z 22:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

coverage/focus

Has the topical coverage of this wiki been mentioned anywhere in our docs? If not, we need a Focus (?? please suggest better name?) page detailing this. ⇔ ChristTrekker 19:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

clones

Anyone want to add pages for Colby WalkMac SE, Colby WalkMac SE-30, Cutting Edge Quatro 850, Dynamac, Dynamac EL, Outbound Notebook 2000, Outbound Notebook 2030, Outbound Notebook 2030E, Outbound Notebook 2030S, Outbound Notebook 2030V, RealTech Traveler 880, and RealTech Traveler 1480? We have a number of Apple clones, but nothing covering any Mac clones. ⇔ ChristTrekker 14:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)